28 July 2009 @ 12:33 pm
Torchwood Meta: On CoE and Why It's Bad Drama  
This is very long. It's my way to express to myself my dissatisfaction with CoE.  Don't read it you don't want to. The next chapter of Andy's story coming up tomorrow!

            One of the reasons I left Star Trek fandom yea many years ago was that I was utterly bored with the arguments about “story” versus “characters.” You know, the people who would say the character has to do that action in order to advance the story versus that action is very out of character for that individual and therefore unbelievable. The two aligned along the “hard’ versus “soft” science-fiction axis, though not totally.

 

            There seems to be a similar division in the reactions to CoE, which would be totally understandable IF THE STORY WERE A GOOD ONE. But it isn’t. Not even by television standards, which is a low bar to set indeed. And the worst part about it is that the wounds are, as they say, self-inflicted.

           First, if you’re a Torchwood fan but not a Doctor Who fan, some of these things might carry less weight, but bear with me. Torchwood belongs, or did, until this series, in the Whoniverse. There are certain conventions about this Universe which are utterly disregarded in CoE. In The Christmas Invasion, the Doctor tells the Sycorax to go home and tell all other alien races to keep their paws off Earth: tell whoever you meet that the Earth is defended. Now, that doesn’t stop the aliens from trying, but… there is always a defense. Until now.  I’d like to see the Doctor’s explanation when Jack calls him on it. Do you think they will make the Doctor into the kind of monster who says it was for the good of mankind? Or sorry Jack, everyone you love is expendable anyway and buck up, there'll be others? Or even worse, have the Doctor indulge in one of his tiresome pity-parties?

 

            Another convention disregarded is the whole idea of UNIT as a warlike group that would shoot at anything that moves. In Journey’s End, Martha is sent by UNIT to use something called the Osterhagen Key, a device that would destroy the Earth by detonating nuclear warheads, rather than let it fall into the hands of the Daleks. I just watched Planet of the Dead. In this particular instance the UNIT people are called to deal with a wormhole. Their commander lines them up in front of it and says, pretty much, whatever comes through, shoot it dead.  So UNIT would accept orders to capitulate without a single shot?

 

            The biggest and best is a little something called the Shadow Proclamation. It’s a large organization which maintains order among races, including employing a set of enforcers called the Judoon. Often the Doctor would quote its treaties and conventions to emphasize that he had the right to act against beings that did not conform to its dictates. In fact in The Stolen Earth the Doctor is asked to lead the forces of the Shadow Proclamation against whoever was stealing planets. What are the odds that Jack, considering where/when he was born, an experienced Time Agent, and a Companion, wouldn’t have known about it? And, with the communications part of his wrist device thingie, call in the Judoon?

 

            But, you say, but that can be explained away one way or the other. All right, I say, then let’s talk character in action:

 

            Martha Jones, the woman who walked the Earth for a year and defeated a mad Time Lord in the process can’t find a way to get back to London

 

            Sarah Jane Smith, a former Companion with a supercomputer and a superintelligent mechanical dog, never even bothers to try to do anything…

 

            Jack Harkness, a man who we are told has spent over one hundred years preparing for the moment where everything changes, doesn’t have a plan. A successful conman and thief, not to mention successful Time Agent, can’t figure out some way to deal with these aliens and flails about like a tyro, to the point that he has to be given instructions on how to steal from his least experienced agent. And even worse, the man we have been told for two series is the one who will do the bad thing, the nasty thing, no matter how bad and nasty, in order to save the Earth, has to be motivated by the death of his lover to sacrifice his grandson…

 

            Ianto Jones, the man who keeps everything going in Torchwood by making sure everything works as it should, doesn’t lock his car well enough so thieves get to it, and forgets to pick up a gas mask even though he knows the aliens live in a poisonous atmosphere…

 

            Everyone one in the government, except one lone temp, is a coward and a poltroon. Now, I know bureaucrats suck, but, honestly, not one to raise a ruckus?... Even in the Bourne movies there are at least two good government types…

 

            Everyone is terrified of these aliens, who the last time they were on Earth, didn’t really threaten much, instead, they offered a vaccine in trade, a vaccine that healed millions…

 

            Any one of us can think of three or four ways in which Ianto would still be dead but the response from the fans would be totally different.  Can you imagine how different it would have been if Ianto had died saving Steven? But at bottom, the whole CoE arc is bad plotting. Which, to be honest, is not unusual in Torchwood and Doctor Who. The thing that attracts us to these two shows is the characters. All the quirky, insane, brilliant, terrible, silly people that make up the Whoniverse, and who always, until now, acted according to their character. Without them, it all falls apart.

 

 
 
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[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:20 pm (UTC)
VL would clean the floor with the silly prat...

And I think he couldn't make a new hero because he couldn't. I don't think he has as much clout with the Beeb as people think. He couldn't sell Excxalibur, which was the original idea for Torchwood, and created for Eve, until he put it in the Whoniverse and brought Jack over.

I am really, really concerned for Jack and his ultimate fate in the last Tennant special. RTD seems to be going out of his way to smash the toys on his way out.
[identity profile] tintop-lizzy.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:28 pm (UTC)
*nods yes* *nods yes but hopes no*

*sighs* Too many who fans have been traumatised of late, silly little man RTD. And I count Who/TW as the same, else why link the two, RTD? They film Nov but he is writing it now. YOu can only deconstruct once Wesley Crusher/Worf//Bab5...
Even QAF (original UK) was heavily autobiographical, and Chris Ecc turned it down did you know...
When has RTD stuck with anything through to the end, I feel he has ven abandoned Wales by blowing it up... (Wels ttL is annoyed muchly here).
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:37 pm (UTC)
No, I didn't! Clever man, Chris... Yah. I worry aboout Jack. And I'm sure the Welsh are pissed. Torchwood was a good draw, I think.


Edited 2009-07-28 05:39 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] tintop-lizzy.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
Chriss Ecc was to be the aggressive dismissive older guy who seduces the 15 year old. He only ever signed on for a single year one way or the other for DW. GDL filmed TW3 and finished it *then* announced his engagement to very nice Gemma....Vicious rumours say this is because RTD was a bit keen on GDL, making the name of GDL's girlfriend then in TWs1 as the cyberwoman who died etc etc etc... Rumours are so interesting Y/Y? Noel Clark is onto better things also...
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
I just hope GDL goes on to better things. The kid took a big risk with his career... OK, I'm not getting into personal rumours. They are always iffy at best. BUT if that's true, I wonder how he felt when he watched GDL all over Barrowman (and viceversa)at cons and things... because those two were making out to the point that if I were Scott I'd either slap them silly or tell them they must share :D But, you know, I doubt it. Here it's all about ego, I think. The man thinks of himself as a genius for reviving Doctor Who -- and in some ways, he was. It's just... not as great as he thinks he is.
[identity profile] tintop-lizzy.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
I hope GDL gets signed for a BBC costume drama soon!! I'd watch it, yeah! Please PLEEEEZ not Eastenders...

And yes, RTD is a breaking rather than sharing type, and Moffat has a way to go, I support him sight unseen because his eps of DW were very good.
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:01 pm (UTC)
Agreed. Moffat gets his chance in my eyes.
[identity profile] aeron-lanart.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:22 pm (UTC)
Moffat *is* god. Rusty was just a prophet....

*ahem*

He might turn out to be the guy from the other side for all we know, but I've got great hopes for him.
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:27 pm (UTC)
Me too. At least I know I won't be pounding my desk nearly as much... he wrote "The Empty Child" and "The Doctor Dances". That buys him mega credit in my book...
[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 05:57 pm (UTC)
And I don't think RTD created Jack, did he? I know Moffat wrote the first episodes with Jack, so did he create Jack or did RTD? Because if I were Moffat and he did that to my Jack, I think I'd be righteously pissed.
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
I have a feeling Moffat is filming the new stuff and chewing lead and spitting nails. He gets to deal with the fallout. The cast list of the last special sounds like the reunion to end all reunions... and RTD is in a "break it" mood...
[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:13 pm (UTC)
And Moffat has kept his mouth shut--which shows he is far more professional than I could ever be. I'd be wearing an "F#%k you, RTD shirt to set every day". Because I'm sure his contract to head up Who is with BBC and not RTD, so what'll happen? He'll get fired? Moffat is so freaking talented that he could go anywhere.

The last special, "And then, because there was no way to defeat the RTDs, Sarah Jane shoved her son into a vat of acid, knowing the death would be quick. She then gave Mr. Smith a worm that would destroy him and aim all of the UK's weapons at Wales, because who needs them? K-9 was mechanically neutered and shoved in a restaurant microwave. SHe then raced to the hospital to join Martha Jones, who had disconnected everyone's life support because there was no hope. She then smothered Tom Milligan and all the children in the pedes ward. Then she and Sarah Jane went to the roof and jumped off, only to land on Jack Harkness, killing him. Jack revived, only to find the Doctor and kill him. When the Doctor woke from the regeneration, he trapped Jack in a hell dimension where he could be tortured by Ianto and Steven ghosts until the Doctor felt ready to let him out. THe Doctor then told the Shadow Proclamation that Earth wanted out from under its protection. When the Daleks showed up, the Doctor saluted them and went surfing in the Medusa Cascade."
[identity profile] aeron-lanart.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:24 pm (UTC)
When the Daleks showed up, the Doctor saluted them and went surfing in the Medusa Cascade.

Oh dear. I wonder what this says about me as it made me giggle.
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:27 pm (UTC)
Me too actually.
[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:48 pm (UTC)
Hee! That we have similar minds because even though it's awful, I giggled while writing it.
[identity profile] aeron-lanart.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:51 pm (UTC)
I'm not surprised about me - I'm sort of partly responsible for this...

[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:54 pm (UTC)
Oh my goddess! I just snorted Diet Pepsi up my nose, but it was so worth it! I think I love you.
[identity profile] aeron-lanart.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:56 pm (UTC)
I came up with the idea in Asda one evening, and [livejournal.com profile] k_haldane very kindly vidded it...
[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:59 pm (UTC)
HOw wrong is it that I now have that same scene pictured, but with the 456 singing "Modern Major General" from Pirates?
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
Oh.Ye.Gods. *dies laughing*
[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:52 pm (UTC)
And it reminds me I so need to get caught up on your work. I am way behind and remember absolutely loving it. Can I friend you to help me remember?
[identity profile] aeron-lanart.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:59 pm (UTC)
Please feel free. The more friends the merrier. *g* Everything is tagged for ease of reading as I tend to waffle about useless stuff as well as fic.

Right now I'm writing a CoE fic in my Highlander/Torchwood crossover universe for Torchwood Big Bang. It's hard work!
[identity profile] faithharkness.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 07:02 pm (UTC)
Ooo, I can't wait! I thought of signing up for TW Big Bang, but as I'm in the end run of Grace, I didn't want to get distracted (read: get killed for too many delays).