28 July 2009 @ 12:33 pm
Torchwood Meta: On CoE and Why It's Bad Drama  
This is very long. It's my way to express to myself my dissatisfaction with CoE.  Don't read it you don't want to. The next chapter of Andy's story coming up tomorrow!

            One of the reasons I left Star Trek fandom yea many years ago was that I was utterly bored with the arguments about “story” versus “characters.” You know, the people who would say the character has to do that action in order to advance the story versus that action is very out of character for that individual and therefore unbelievable. The two aligned along the “hard’ versus “soft” science-fiction axis, though not totally.

 

            There seems to be a similar division in the reactions to CoE, which would be totally understandable IF THE STORY WERE A GOOD ONE. But it isn’t. Not even by television standards, which is a low bar to set indeed. And the worst part about it is that the wounds are, as they say, self-inflicted.

           First, if you’re a Torchwood fan but not a Doctor Who fan, some of these things might carry less weight, but bear with me. Torchwood belongs, or did, until this series, in the Whoniverse. There are certain conventions about this Universe which are utterly disregarded in CoE. In The Christmas Invasion, the Doctor tells the Sycorax to go home and tell all other alien races to keep their paws off Earth: tell whoever you meet that the Earth is defended. Now, that doesn’t stop the aliens from trying, but… there is always a defense. Until now.  I’d like to see the Doctor’s explanation when Jack calls him on it. Do you think they will make the Doctor into the kind of monster who says it was for the good of mankind? Or sorry Jack, everyone you love is expendable anyway and buck up, there'll be others? Or even worse, have the Doctor indulge in one of his tiresome pity-parties?

 

            Another convention disregarded is the whole idea of UNIT as a warlike group that would shoot at anything that moves. In Journey’s End, Martha is sent by UNIT to use something called the Osterhagen Key, a device that would destroy the Earth by detonating nuclear warheads, rather than let it fall into the hands of the Daleks. I just watched Planet of the Dead. In this particular instance the UNIT people are called to deal with a wormhole. Their commander lines them up in front of it and says, pretty much, whatever comes through, shoot it dead.  So UNIT would accept orders to capitulate without a single shot?

 

            The biggest and best is a little something called the Shadow Proclamation. It’s a large organization which maintains order among races, including employing a set of enforcers called the Judoon. Often the Doctor would quote its treaties and conventions to emphasize that he had the right to act against beings that did not conform to its dictates. In fact in The Stolen Earth the Doctor is asked to lead the forces of the Shadow Proclamation against whoever was stealing planets. What are the odds that Jack, considering where/when he was born, an experienced Time Agent, and a Companion, wouldn’t have known about it? And, with the communications part of his wrist device thingie, call in the Judoon?

 

            But, you say, but that can be explained away one way or the other. All right, I say, then let’s talk character in action:

 

            Martha Jones, the woman who walked the Earth for a year and defeated a mad Time Lord in the process can’t find a way to get back to London

 

            Sarah Jane Smith, a former Companion with a supercomputer and a superintelligent mechanical dog, never even bothers to try to do anything…

 

            Jack Harkness, a man who we are told has spent over one hundred years preparing for the moment where everything changes, doesn’t have a plan. A successful conman and thief, not to mention successful Time Agent, can’t figure out some way to deal with these aliens and flails about like a tyro, to the point that he has to be given instructions on how to steal from his least experienced agent. And even worse, the man we have been told for two series is the one who will do the bad thing, the nasty thing, no matter how bad and nasty, in order to save the Earth, has to be motivated by the death of his lover to sacrifice his grandson…

 

            Ianto Jones, the man who keeps everything going in Torchwood by making sure everything works as it should, doesn’t lock his car well enough so thieves get to it, and forgets to pick up a gas mask even though he knows the aliens live in a poisonous atmosphere…

 

            Everyone one in the government, except one lone temp, is a coward and a poltroon. Now, I know bureaucrats suck, but, honestly, not one to raise a ruckus?... Even in the Bourne movies there are at least two good government types…

 

            Everyone is terrified of these aliens, who the last time they were on Earth, didn’t really threaten much, instead, they offered a vaccine in trade, a vaccine that healed millions…

 

            Any one of us can think of three or four ways in which Ianto would still be dead but the response from the fans would be totally different.  Can you imagine how different it would have been if Ianto had died saving Steven? But at bottom, the whole CoE arc is bad plotting. Which, to be honest, is not unusual in Torchwood and Doctor Who. The thing that attracts us to these two shows is the characters. All the quirky, insane, brilliant, terrible, silly people that make up the Whoniverse, and who always, until now, acted according to their character. Without them, it all falls apart.

 

 
 
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[identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:40 pm (UTC)
"In The Christmas Invasion, the Doctor tells the Sycorax to go home and tell all other alien races to keep their paws off Earth: tell whoever you meet that the Earth is defended. Now, that doesn’t stop the aliens from trying, but… there is always a defense. Until now."

Ok, TW London shot that thing down under Harriet Jones' order; they didn't get a chance to spread the warning. I think Harriet made the right judgment call, at the time. No one would expect TW London to fall within a year. Similarly, no one would expect Harriet's timeline (she was supposed to be elected for 3 terms) got changed by the Docotor b/c she disagreed with him (that's really what it was boiled down to; she hurt his ego). Consequently, Master got a hole in Time where he sneaked in and became the PM. (RTD made a similar comment on that matter.) Either way, Ten's an arse, but we know that.

That to be said. I agree with you, the plot sucked. Almost every player suddenly lost a pair or just conveniently forgotten. (Except Doctor of course. Like Harriet Jones said, it's impossible for him to show up every time. And frankly, I don't want him to; Superman type bothers me.) Everyone's OOC, Unit, Ianto, Harkness and Gwen (in a good way).

What really bugs me was that Jack claimed that TW is ready. Any one person can tell him that they were no where near ready, which was proven in "Turn Left". Jack Harkness took wrong lesson from TW London. It's not don't temper with unfamiliar techs or don't have a huge organization; it should be "making sure you have big enough guns such that when shit blows up at your face, you can actually clean the mess." The TW in Rose's world learned the right lesson. Did you guys see those standard issue BMFG and the teleport thingy?

Therefore, at this point, I'm not sure what's worse, TW's overall stupidity or the enormously bad plot line of COE. Frankly, the only good and made sense characters were those got killed off. (Ianto only made sense until COE, a.k.a. when RTD got his paw on him.) I like Jack, but often then not he just came off as all barking no biting. My most memorable moment of him was when he teleported Mary to the Sun; JB delivered his character brilliantly, cruel decisive and swift. That's the Jack everyone include himself claimed him to be, but often than not he appeared to be soft, careless and brainless.
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 06:55 pm (UTC)
Hey, Jack negativity are fighting words :D

The problem with Torchwood was often writing. When you got a good writer, you got a good Jack: Small Worlds, Greeks Bearing Gifts, etc. But when you didn't... BUT the biggest problem was that there was no attempt at maintaining the larger arc in mind. And that is bad plotting, and it gets you back to the beginning.

And the thing was, they did seem to have a larger overarching arc... and it turned out to be... let's kill Ianto and crush Jack so we can make an American audition tape. One third The Quatermass Experiment, and one third 24, and one third sheer stupid.

Dreck.


Edited 2009-07-28 07:03 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com on July 28th, 2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
"One third The Quatermass Experiment, and one third 24, and one third sheer stupid."

ROFLOL
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 29th, 2009 12:13 am (UTC)
I had to define it somehow. After a while it made me laugh too, but in a bitter sort of way...
[identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com on July 29th, 2009 05:48 pm (UTC)
And what an precise definition it was.

BTW
"let's kill Ianto and crush Jack so we can make an American audition tape. "
If that's the best he can do, he better think again. Does US actually buy that kind of crap? Lovers don't get refrigerated any more, they don't even do DID any more, they tend to do their own ass kicking. I mean last time I checked, Heros in US drama are mostly psychos and their professionally involved lovers are either more psychotic or just hard to kill or they don't exist due to the hero is actually a pro; and the secret organizations mostly have staffs with mad fighting skills, surviving abilities of cockroaches, bosses with crazy political connections and leverages AND when they don't give a damn they do have plans and much less PLOT HOLES!
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 29th, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC)
I'm actually curious to see what he does, because the American market has a hell of a lot less give for quirkiness. Shows have been cancelled after three episodes because the ratings were down with the "right" demographic -- which is usually young people, especifically, it seems, young males. ANd let's face it, Doctor Who has its own built-in audience to give it a chance to catch up with the younger folk... And Torchwood had Jack, who rapidly became the second-fave with a sizable number of DW watchers... Let's see what he does from scratch.
[identity profile] phaetonschariot.livejournal.com on July 31st, 2009 12:43 am (UTC)
lol I loved his line about Mary - "It can't be that hot, we sent her there at night and everything." It was so cruel but so hilarious.

Torchwood is pretty damn incompetent though, yeah. I love the Torchwood EPIC FAIL reviews and counting up how many times they caused the problem themselves.
[identity profile] urnssadomen.livejournal.com on July 31st, 2009 09:28 pm (UTC)
Oh, his eyes, when Tosh accused him of killing Mary and he said "Yes!", they were sooo beautiful, beautifully cruel.

JB makes a very good villain. Ok, let me correct that. Villians sometimes are very attractive, B/C they are COMPETENT AND DO LOGICAL THINGS.
[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com on July 31st, 2009 09:39 pm (UTC)
Yes. This. And his face when he turns Jasmine over to the Mara... sad but determined... it has to be done, he does it.

Edited 2009-07-31 09:40 pm (UTC)