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Merucha ([personal profile] merucha) wrote2009-07-28 11:59 pm
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Stupid Behavior and I'm not Usually Stupid

I just went off on a post at Torch_Wood where a CoE fan calls people like me, who criticize the great talent of RTD, irrational and childish fist-shakers. I don't usually do things like this, but I just... where are these condescending, insulting people coming from? Am I the only one -- no I'm not, if your response to the meta post is anything to go by -- who thinks that good characters and a good story makes for good television and refuse to lick the toes of anyone who doesn't provide it? Is it really such a childish thing to expect what I'm promised?

I was willing to overlook all the stupid discontinuities, silly plot twists, and annoying inconsistencies of Torchwood because the characters were appealing -- even Saint Gwen most of the time. I loved them all. I was prepared to lose some; considering the set up, it was unlikely to think Torchwood would be blood-free. But I did expect that they would die with dignity and grace and they would be treated with respect.  And once in a while, one of the writers would get it right and it all came together and it was GLORIOUS. But CoE destroyed all of that; all the trust I had put on the creators that they would respect their own creation.

Look. RTD doesn't owe me anything. But I owe him exactly the same. I have followed writers whose work has descended into Mary-Sueism and have dumped them without a qualm. They're still best sellers, just not on my dime. RTD will go on having his fanboys and fangirls who will cheer every contrived, second-hand, cheap-emotion-in-place-of-real-effort work he puts out. I'm not one of them. And good luck to him. I wish no evil on anyone, preferring to let karma work its magic.

But I will NOT be told to sit down and shut up. Screw that.



[identity profile] sarahjane6.livejournal.com 2009-07-29 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know why those RTD supporters are so defensive...unless they KNOW they are in the minority and feel they must blindly defend their idol to the death. We are all just stating our own opinions and I don't see us running off to their posts and calling names. We're just have respectful discussions on the points of the story.

[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com 2009-07-30 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think the first explosion of anger was overboard, but it was justifiably overboard in a sense; the fans had been promised "we would be happy about the relationship" and we got "you should be happy that you saw how much Jack and Ianto loved each other right before they get poisoned and die", which IMHO is not the same thing. And the reaction to poor Moran was horrific.BUT:

From some of the comments I've read, it seems that this piece of dreck, because it was full of dying people and bad government conspiracies, makes Torchwood "real drama." You know, I would have understood if it were good. But it is nonsense.
Edited 2009-07-30 01:25 (UTC)

[identity profile] sarahjane6.livejournal.com 2009-07-30 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
My opinion is totally in sync with yours. We were promised something totally different from what we received and they are surprised by fan reaction. I guess I was expecting intelligence in them that doesn't exist. At least I can finally laugh at what fools they sound like defending themselves in interviews.