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Merucha ([personal profile] merucha) wrote2009-07-28 11:59 pm
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Stupid Behavior and I'm not Usually Stupid

I just went off on a post at Torch_Wood where a CoE fan calls people like me, who criticize the great talent of RTD, irrational and childish fist-shakers. I don't usually do things like this, but I just... where are these condescending, insulting people coming from? Am I the only one -- no I'm not, if your response to the meta post is anything to go by -- who thinks that good characters and a good story makes for good television and refuse to lick the toes of anyone who doesn't provide it? Is it really such a childish thing to expect what I'm promised?

I was willing to overlook all the stupid discontinuities, silly plot twists, and annoying inconsistencies of Torchwood because the characters were appealing -- even Saint Gwen most of the time. I loved them all. I was prepared to lose some; considering the set up, it was unlikely to think Torchwood would be blood-free. But I did expect that they would die with dignity and grace and they would be treated with respect.  And once in a while, one of the writers would get it right and it all came together and it was GLORIOUS. But CoE destroyed all of that; all the trust I had put on the creators that they would respect their own creation.

Look. RTD doesn't owe me anything. But I owe him exactly the same. I have followed writers whose work has descended into Mary-Sueism and have dumped them without a qualm. They're still best sellers, just not on my dime. RTD will go on having his fanboys and fangirls who will cheer every contrived, second-hand, cheap-emotion-in-place-of-real-effort work he puts out. I'm not one of them. And good luck to him. I wish no evil on anyone, preferring to let karma work its magic.

But I will NOT be told to sit down and shut up. Screw that.



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[identity profile] fide-et-spe.livejournal.com 2009-07-30 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Just here to read the next Fallout and saw this. I wish I'd seen the post you refer to, mind I probably commented on it, I'm getting confused with them all. It does astonish me that there is this attitude emerging that those who aren't happy about CoE are stupid and only in it for the pretty boys. Probably never read poetry either. I am astonished by the fans who are coming close to RTD in their level of dismissiveness toward their fellow fans.

Thing is in real life I have family and close friends in the telly and film business, and have met a lot of "people" socially. I really don't get why anyone wants to stroke someone else's ego, these are ordinary people, and often not especially interesting. Also, the ones who get sucked up to constantly and have the arse lickers fawning about them, well they become self obsessed and very very dull. The ones who don't let that happen, they have more chance of remaining nice, and normal. One of my friends, very successful writer and telly/radio performer, talks about colleagues who get the "whiff of Hollywood about them (not a good thing) Believe me RTD will not give a toss about fans agreeing with him, and putting down the other fans. He will be equally dismissive. It gets them nowhere.

[identity profile] merucha.livejournal.com 2009-07-30 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of fans want to be seen as more than "sci-fi geeks" by so-called normal people and plump for "this is GREAT DRAMA!" so as to point to it and say, "see, see, it's not just geek stuff, it's GREAT DRAMA!". Silly.

And RTD doesn't give a rip about anything but his ego. Good luck to him, but I don't want his karma.